The "Open" Left

You know how leftists keep yelling that conservatives are so closed-minded and such bigots? Yeah, we've all heard it many times. Well imagine my surprise when I found myself banned from a site that I actually rather enjoyed visiting. What did I do to be banned from this bastion of left openess? Here's the general idea. The page owner copied a rather useless attack from another site attacking Christians of being hypocrits because they followed parts of Leviticus and not others. I don't disagree, yet, with the post. But the argument comes up that it means that unless we're going to live by all the Levitical laws, then we have to accept homosexual behavior or we're hate-mongers. Here is what the comments section looked like, including my post:

Item #6 has it's own web site.

http://www.godhatesshrimp.com/

There are a lot of shrimp eaters in this country that are going straight to hell!!!

I'm not sure the fundies get this kind of stuff. They always have a way to twisting things to fit their narrow world view.
Matt | Email | Homepage | 02.22.05 - 2:28 pm | #

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The West Wing had an epsiode where the President lit into a particularly judgmental Xtian type using many of the same examples you listed as a means of cutting her off at the knees, it was beautiful to see.

The problem is that so called "people of faith" are frequently people of little or even no faith and and therefore are in a constant state of trying to be pious to cover for their lack. The result is a huge capacity for contradiction and ill-logic eveidenced by their hand picked moralities and judgments. Pointing out the more obvious examples to them as your post does, has zero effect on them because thay have given over the capacity to think critically, in fact they have made critical thinking anathema to that robotic posturing they call their faith.
cul | Email | Homepage | 02.22.05 - 9:31 pm | #

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i saw that episode of west wing too and it was a shame because anyone who had actually read their bible as much as that woman's character was supposed to have could have knocked the president's comments out of the park. it's not just in the levitical code. paul states multiple times (1 Corinthians 6:9 for example) that homosexual behavior is sinful.

but see, this is the thing. it was only a couple of weeks ago when i was told, on this site, that gays didn't care about religious acceptance. it was only about civil rights. now, it's about the church accepting homosexuals on religious grounds.
ward | Email | Homepage | 02.23.05 - 8:35 am | #

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you can't have it both ways. either you want civil rights and you'll allow the church to hold whatever view we believe or you insist that EVERYONE accept homosexuality as a god-ordained lifestyle and accepts it, regardless of our beliefs.

if you want civil rights, i'm all there. but i'm tired of being called names because i believe that the gay lifestyle doesn't square with God.
ward | Email | Homepage | 02.23.05 - 8:38 am | #

The webmaster did not like my comments and proceeded to berate me in a manner not fitting of this site. So I'll leave it to your imagination. Then, he banned me from commenting on the site.

Now, if the leftists are so open in this country, then why is it that this guy couldn't stand to allow a different opinion to be heard? I wasn't even being mean or foul, I was just trying to have a discussion with him. But oh well. That's a liberal for you. Freedom for everyone who agrees with you. It might not be so bad if they didn't rail on others for the same sins. It might also have not been so bad if I hadn't enjoyed reading the blog. But all things come to an end, I suppose.